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Aaron Blaisdell's avatar

Excellent post! This made me think about monogamous versus harem style animal societies and whether similar dynamics are at play there. For example, the silverback male gorilla "rules" over a harem of females and their offspring (including his sons), until he is overthrown. In chimpanzee societies, a coalition of males "rule" until they are overthrown. What are the dynamics of leadership turnover in these differently structured ape societies, and do they also support the cliodynamics that are observed in humans (obviously without the written history of "clio"). And there's evidence that individuals within family lines can even inherit "wealth" of a sort (good breeding grounds, nests, accumulated cultural artefacts, etc.), creating culturally heritable differences in privilege -- See: Smith, J. E., Natterson-Horowitz, B., & Alfaro, M. E. (2022). The nature of privilege: intergenerational wealth in animal societies. Behavioral Ecology, 33(1), 1-6.

Simon Pearce's avatar

Interesting. A few observations.

It’s hard to read Dune without suspecting that Frank Herbert was engaging Ibn Khaldun directly, rather than converging on similar ideas by coincidence. The parallels are numerous and structural, not superficial. I’m curious whether Herbert ever explicitly acknowledged this influence.

What’s especially striking is how deeply Herbert understands the dynamic. Early in Dune, Leto Atreides recognizes the origins of the Sardaukar on Salusa Secundus (a horrendous prison planet mislabelled by all subsequent TV and film adaptations) and accepts the poisoned chalice of Arrakis to replicate that formative pressure through the Fremen. His enemies assume he has fallen for the “honey trap” of spice wealth. He has not. He is playing a different game entirely.

Leto understands that Caladan cannot produce the military power he needs, and that refusal of the Emperor’s offer still leads to destruction. This is the key point: declining the trap does not restore equilibrium. He recognizes that he is already at war and on his way to losing before any shots are fired. Very Sun Tzu.

That recognition is both admirable and tragic; reminiscent of Winston Churchill enduring years of accusations of warmongering before history caught up. This is leadership under extreme constraint: seeing the full board, recognizing that all options are bad, and choosing the one that preserves a narrow path to survival.

Leto understands how the Emperor truly controls the Imperium (through the Sardaukar) and concludes that an alliance with the Fremen is worth the risk precisely because not taking that risk guarantees defeat.

It’s been many years since I read the later books, and I never finished God Emperor, so I’m not sure how explicitly Herbert later foregrounds this logic. But it’s already fully present in Dune itself.

One final note, on a lighter front: the Sardaukar were never meant to look like Parisian fashion victims. Thank God for Denis Villeneuve.

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