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Kurt's avatar

I live in Wuhan and have a very different view of how change occurs, and HOW we all should want it, and it's not the way Stevie imagines. What Stevie is imagining is way more pain that Americans can deal with. Given the fractious nature of American society, imagining something lovely is going to organically form and become a great society is nonsense of the most childish sort. Talk to folks that lived through the Chinese Cultural Revolution. They'll tell you what burning it all down gets you.

We should be partnering with China, not Putin. The length, depth, and breadth of the characterizations, misrepresentations, and a few outright lies about China are criminal. China is not a communist country; it hasn't been even remotely commie since 1998. It is a market economy, an entrepreneurial capitalist country, with the difference between the US and China being capital does not control the political state. Chinese are the most hard wired for capitalist entrepreneurial activity as exist anywhere on Earth. The Chinese economic explosion happened when the old line commies finally took their boot of the necks of the populace and the place exploded in entrepreneurial business.

China needs natural resources. Previous civilizational advances (Tang, Ming, Qing) pretty much used up what was once one of the world's greatest repositories for natural resources. We need Chinese engineers, manufacturing innovations, and general work ethic. Popular media misrepresentations of China has them sneakily working to turn the world into a Marxist state. Nope. Chinese just want to do business. To explain the dynamics and actual conditions would take way more time and energy than I am currently inspired to provide. Most Americans will never believe it anyway.

Why anyone imagines Bannon as some sort of brilliant tactician is beyond me. Undertaking earth shifting change by burning it all down and then imagining magic will rise like a Phoenix out of the ashes is ludicrous. The guy has no plan. Zip. Nada. Just burn it down. This is the tactic of a child moron, not a strategy for advancing civilization.

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Dick Burkhart's avatar

I think that Kurt from Wuhan has identified what Bannon's misses: The problem is not the "administrative state" but oligarchs (billionaires & Wall Street) who have taken over the US state. As Kurt says, "the difference between the US and China being capital does not control the political state [in China]". Also, "Talk to folks that lived through the Chinese Cultural Revolution. They'll tell you what burning it all down gets you." And the Bolsheviks led to Stalin.

What needs "disruption" is not the administrative state (= the DOGE target) but US hegemony (military "full spectrum dominance", endless geopolitical wars and maneuvers, economic and cultural domination, etc). But Trump's pretend retreat into nationalism will fail because the problems are global. That is, a new global political and economic order will come about one way or another. Let's do our part to help something worth salvaging to survive the collapse.

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David's avatar

Is Bannon, Agenda 47, or Project 2025 in favor of raising the top tax rate to 90%? That would be an important step in avoiding violence, right?

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Kurt's avatar

And, if anyone imagines that Xi's "partnership" with Putin is anything more than a play for time and access to the natural resources it needs, they need remedial education in the Russia-China relationship history.

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